Debate of the week was who is to blame for the economic mess. Wall Street or Washington?
Good debate....and results of this debate ended up that it is Washington.
However, I am not sure the right question was asked, it was limited. And if it is Washington, then really is not the people who voted for Washington?
Washington is created, by the people, for the people. If people believe policitians' promises of something for nothing, then is not the real fault the people. There is no free lunch, there is no cost free promises. The more promises, the more it costs, and not only directly, but indirectly as well as the government processes, policies and spending disorts the economy, until economy starts to collaspe and fail. That is what we are seeing now in the US. This is not new stuff, we have seen through out history the results of government led and directed economies. They always end up the same....in failure and collaspe.
There needs to be a fundamental change with all of us and our expectations. The economy only grows based on production and savings. Debt led growth and expansion will not provide substainable economic growth. It just can't. The compounding affect of interest assures that it can not.
Financial Crisis Debate March 2009
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Saturday, March 21, 2009
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Saturday, February 28, 2009
Berkshire Hathaway....Not Doing Great Either
Berkshire Hathaway has worst year in company's history, results show
By Alistair Barr, MarketWatch
Chairman Warren Buffett told shareholders Saturday that the economy would remain in "shambles" during 2009 and beyond, offering no prediction about the future may hold for U.S. stocks.
In his annual letter to shareholders -- eagerly anticipated by investors for the insights it may hold into his thinking -- Buffett said neither he nor Charlie Munger, his long-time partner in running Omaha-based Berkshire (BRKBBerkshire Hathaway Inc can predict winning and losing years in advance -- and no one else can either.
"We're certain, for example, that the economy will be in shambles throughout 2009 -- and, for that matter, probably well beyond -- but that conclusion does not tell us whether the stock market will rise or fall," Buffett wrote.
Buffett, known as the "Oracle of Omaha," admitted to mistakes last year. "During 2008 I did some dumb things in investments," he said. One such error, he said, was the purchase of a large amount of Conoco Phillips Inc. stock when oil and gas prices were nearing peak levels.
"I in no way anticipated the dramatic fall in energy prices that occurred in the last half of the year," he said. "I still believe the odds are good that oil sells far higher in the future than the current $40-to-$50 price. But so far I have been dead wrong. Even if prices should rise, moreover, the terrible timing of my purchase has cost Berkshire several billion dollars."
Buffett also said his acquisition of shares in two Irish banks have turned out badly -- with losses of more than 89%.
On the positive side, the investor is pleased with buys totaling $14.5 million in fixed-income securities issued by General Electric Co.
We very much like these commitments, which carry high current yields that, in themselves, make the investments more than satisfactory. But in each of these three purchases, we also acquired a substantial equity participation as a bonus."
The per-share book value of both Class A and Class B shares of Berkshire fell 9.6%, Buffett said.
The company's net income fell to $4.99 billion from $13.21 billion in 2007.
The 78-year-old billionaire said that although the market value of bonds and stocks the company still holds have dropped dramatically along with the broader market, Berkshire is not bothered by those decreases. "Indeed, we enjoy such price declines if we have funds available to increase our positions. ... Whether we're talking about socks or stocks, I like buying quality merchandise when it is marked down."
On the lookout for inflation 'Whatever the downsides may be, strong and immediate action by government was essential last year if the financial system was to avoid a total breakdown. Had that occurred, the consequences for every area of our economy would have been cataclysmic. Like it or not, the inhabitants of Wall Street, Main Street and the various Side Streets of America were all in the same boat.'
— Warren Buffett
Commenting on the federal government's actions to resolve the economic crisis, Buffett said: "Economic medicine that was previously meted out by the cupful has recently been dispensed by the barrel. These once-unthinkable dosages will almost certainly bring on unwelcome aftereffects."
Inflation is likely to be one such effect, Buffett said.
"Moreover, major industries have become dependent on federal assistance, and they will be followed by cities and states bearing mind-boggling requests. Weaning these entities from the public teat will be a political challenge. They won't leave willingly."
By Alistair Barr, MarketWatch
Chairman Warren Buffett told shareholders Saturday that the economy would remain in "shambles" during 2009 and beyond, offering no prediction about the future may hold for U.S. stocks.
In his annual letter to shareholders -- eagerly anticipated by investors for the insights it may hold into his thinking -- Buffett said neither he nor Charlie Munger, his long-time partner in running Omaha-based Berkshire (BRKBBerkshire Hathaway Inc can predict winning and losing years in advance -- and no one else can either.
"We're certain, for example, that the economy will be in shambles throughout 2009 -- and, for that matter, probably well beyond -- but that conclusion does not tell us whether the stock market will rise or fall," Buffett wrote.
Buffett, known as the "Oracle of Omaha," admitted to mistakes last year. "During 2008 I did some dumb things in investments," he said. One such error, he said, was the purchase of a large amount of Conoco Phillips Inc. stock when oil and gas prices were nearing peak levels.
"I in no way anticipated the dramatic fall in energy prices that occurred in the last half of the year," he said. "I still believe the odds are good that oil sells far higher in the future than the current $40-to-$50 price. But so far I have been dead wrong. Even if prices should rise, moreover, the terrible timing of my purchase has cost Berkshire several billion dollars."
Buffett also said his acquisition of shares in two Irish banks have turned out badly -- with losses of more than 89%.
On the positive side, the investor is pleased with buys totaling $14.5 million in fixed-income securities issued by General Electric Co.
We very much like these commitments, which carry high current yields that, in themselves, make the investments more than satisfactory. But in each of these three purchases, we also acquired a substantial equity participation as a bonus."
The per-share book value of both Class A and Class B shares of Berkshire fell 9.6%, Buffett said.
The company's net income fell to $4.99 billion from $13.21 billion in 2007.
The 78-year-old billionaire said that although the market value of bonds and stocks the company still holds have dropped dramatically along with the broader market, Berkshire is not bothered by those decreases. "Indeed, we enjoy such price declines if we have funds available to increase our positions. ... Whether we're talking about socks or stocks, I like buying quality merchandise when it is marked down."
On the lookout for inflation 'Whatever the downsides may be, strong and immediate action by government was essential last year if the financial system was to avoid a total breakdown. Had that occurred, the consequences for every area of our economy would have been cataclysmic. Like it or not, the inhabitants of Wall Street, Main Street and the various Side Streets of America were all in the same boat.'
— Warren Buffett
Commenting on the federal government's actions to resolve the economic crisis, Buffett said: "Economic medicine that was previously meted out by the cupful has recently been dispensed by the barrel. These once-unthinkable dosages will almost certainly bring on unwelcome aftereffects."
Inflation is likely to be one such effect, Buffett said.
"Moreover, major industries have become dependent on federal assistance, and they will be followed by cities and states bearing mind-boggling requests. Weaning these entities from the public teat will be a political challenge. They won't leave willingly."
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